systemd - is it safe and why not

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llz
llz
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A rejoint: 08/21/2019

I've heard a lot about systemd and trisquel is using it
Many people considers it a bad thing, a risky or insecure, but I don't really understand why.
Can anyone explain why is that? Is it collect any user data or allows to breach securities? Or it's just hated because of being too bulky?

jxself
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A rejoint: 09/13/2010

These seems vague handwavy things. Risky from what? Insecure from what? It wouldn't surprise me if it was invented by those that hate on systemd.

Bonejo
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A rejoint: 04/26/2025

The criticism on systemd comes from a different aspect than freedom — it is free software and does not do proprietary stuff.

However, you can install Parabola GNU/Linux-libre with OpenRC.

eliotime3000
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A rejoint: 06/05/2016

systemd is mostly designed to be deployed in the actual focus of OS design, which should be prepared to the hardware acceleration for some elements like GUI be ready. For an end-user perspective, it's a great focus, but it's absolutely far from the UNIX perspective.

Magic Banana

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A rejoint: 07/24/2010

Five years ago, I wrote https://trisquel.info/forum/systemd-free-trisquel-variant#comment-149916 to explain the conspiracy theories against systemd.

andyprough
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A rejoint: 02/12/2015

Insecure? I've never heard that. It seems plenty safe. Systemd is similar to the Linux kernel - it has a lot of developers and maintainers contributing to it, and there are a lot of distros packaging it, so there's a lot of code review going on all the time in one way or another.

iShareFreedom
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A rejoint: 12/20/2021

With the difference that SystemD dont contain nonfree software like Linux.

libreleah
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A rejoint: 04/03/2017

systemd is fine by now.

it's systemE that i worry about

every once in a while, stuff gets re-written for like no reason

so i worry about systemE

Legimet
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A rejoint: 12/10/2013

There are a lot of people looking at, and contributing to the systemd source code, so if it were collecting user data we would know about it.

I'm sure it has some security vulnerabilities, like pretty much all software, but I haven't heard that it's particularly bad in this respect.